Lonesnake

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Originally Posted by nos-4-a2 what you want to be used as a prison fun toy....

Not necessairly I'd use them, but ya gotta get some loving somehow

- Thanks goes out to Elsa

Psycho Phoenix

~WARNING: This post may seem offensive to some on accounts of religious differences. Keep in mind that this is just one person's personal point of view and does not reflect on anything but said person's view point.~

Seriously though, those WBC gits gotta learn that we were put on this Earth with Free Will and we're not slaves to anybody's whims, not even God's nor Satan's.

Now before you ask, I am a Mormon, but I am NOT of the stereotype who goes around from house to house trying to convert people over. Whilst I do agree with a good portion of the LDS gospel, there are certain things I don't agree with, such as; become too much of a Intellectual and go snooping around for the truth about God or the church and you will be ex-communicated.
"Deviate" from rigid heterosexuality (either by going homosexual or bisexual, or even asexual) and you'll be ex-communicated even though we have Free Agency (or Free Will) to do as we wish, even if that means experimenting with our sexuality or not having any sexuality at all.

There are a variety of other things that can get you ex-communicated (kicked out of the church and shunned by other Latter Day Saints members), but those are the main 2 I have difficulty with.
This is just me using MY Free Will to believe what I wish to believe, I do not expect you to agree or disagree with my personal point of view.

Dai Shi

I am not gonna allow this to become a religious themed thread. But religious or not, it does not justify their behavior. Show me which bible is the only true bible. Show me which religion is the only true one. Fact is, all current religions today branched off of other religions in the past. Many we may not even know of anymore since they are gone. It comes down to ideals and beliefs. But some take it as their ideals and beliefs are the only true ones. That is where free will takes it's nasty turn.

What could have been the 1 true bible and religion over the years has turned into thousands of religions with ideals and beliefs. The problem is, that would likely mean most people are not following the religion, bible, and it's ideals and beliefs originally put here. For all we know all of the worlds current religions could be just slanted versions of the same thing. Anyone that says they know what the real religion, the real bible, the real beliefs and ideals are....are full of BS.

All we have to go by is what we were told by our parents. And our parents were told by their parents. And so on. None of us know in all reality what the real bible is. Or who really wrote it. Or where it really came from. And as most of you know, written or not, things over time have a tendancy to change from what the original source had written or said. Partially because of how it was interpreted and partially because people like to add their own ideals and beliefs and pawn it off as what was actually there. When it is in fact not.

I'm not anti-religion. But I do not believe most of what we have been told is true. All that we are reading or learning is an interpretation. But is not necessarily fact. The bible we know today has changed many times over the centuries. It has had content added and taken away from it as people 'interpreted' what was said. Thus the bible most hold today is a shadow of its former self. I have picked up 2 bibles...both from different publishers BUT for the same religion and had gotten 2 different interpretations from them. IMO, that's dangerous.

If a god laid down his religion and bible and people swerved away from that, then in my opinion they are disobeying that god and the original ideals and beliefs are being lost. One religion may belief in Jesus and Mary...but the next one only in Jesus. Yet the original belief may have included Jesus, Mary, AND Joseph for all we know. Some people say religions believe in the same god. But that's been proven to be untrue.

In my opinion most religions (not all, but most) are just as dangerous as any cult or government out there.

I would rather have no affiliation with any church....than allow myself to be corrupted by people that do not wish me to think freely, but instead to suppress me into their own mold of ideals and beliefs. A lot of people are afraid of what they do not know. And many religions exploit that. They exploit them because regardless of what they may think or say, they are mentally and/or emotionally weak. They have for many many many centuries.

The Westboro Protestors are prime examples of that. Their ideals and religions are right. Everyone elses are wrong. I've seen this with numerous religions. It's dangerous and will likely lead to a dangerous confrontation in the end.

I have seen too many negative things come from religion to even care about it anymore. People can believe in what they want. As long as they don't try pushing it on others. And Westboro is using 1 type of bible to interpret their beliefs. All others are wrong to them.

I was glad to see this video I posted. People realized, it's not about the religion...but about us as people and how we treat each other. In the end, isn't that what god wants?!

mysticwolf11

I'm a Buddhist, first and foremost. I don't believe in hating for the sake of hating and things like that.

Secondly, i'd like to mention that it's things like this that make me LOVE the state I live in!! this is even cooler than that kid in Waukesha who threw the root-beer kegger and embarassed the police officer who stood there and spent like two hours breathalyzing almost a hundred kids and every last one of them turned up 0.0.

Makes me almost want to go to a state college instead of the surrounding private ones...but with my GPA they'd never accept me. Ah, well...

Incredible RJ set thanks to Robbie!

nos-4-a2

First things first I'll come clean on my religion
I'm a Druid
and other than that i'll be quiet on it because i'm happy with being a Druid.
however i'm also a Unitarian minister :-)

i can wholeheartedly agree with mes's statement that you can pick up 2 copies of the bible and come out with 2 different interpretations of the text.I'm not going to quote scripture and verse changes that have been made through out the long twisted history of the bible. But I can point out when the deviation occurred from the original works... As soon as man became involved. Man will always use religion as his way of getting what he wants. For example during the middle ages and the inquisition it was common if a person was a known Jew /gay/protestant/turk/whatever a person could be found guilty based on just that one fact
the reason behind the killing of people of the Jewish faith, they killed Christ.
Killing of turks... heathens unfit for a heavenly blessing
Protestant.... A deviant from the church and it must be squashed ( often the term.. Witch was used for these people)
Gay... Usually with the call of Witch they were killed.

As Mes pointed out Religion can be used to justify anyones point of view. Because of different interpretations of the text can be radically different.
anyway I am done with my diatribe

Psycho Phoenix

What's ironic about Jesus' death: He was killed by the damn ROMANS of the time, ~NOT~ the Jews!
Most people tend to gloss over that major fact... Jesus himself was born and grew up a Jew, got married as a Jew (otherwise he wouldn't have been called Rabbi which is Jewish for Teacher, as Rabbis are married men), and Mary Magdeline (the only Mary in the bible we get much on apart form Jesus' mother Mary) was highly probably Jesus' WIFE even though she was slandered to be nothing more than a mere 'prostitute' by the Catholic Church.

nos-4-a2

^ ahh but you forget there was the choice between saving יהושע's life and saving Barabbas which is why the church tends to think that the jews killed christ. Or at least that is the justification that is used by the church....

mysticwolf11

not trying to sound like a moderator, but as much as this thread has to do with religion, let's try to keep debates out of here, please? There is no right or wrong religion: there's just certain people who take their interpretation of their religion a little too far.

Incredible RJ set thanks to Robbie!

Dai Shi

LOL I always wondered. With Jesus supposedly being gods son and all.....could he chose the wrong religion?! I mean think about it. Maybe it was his choice. Or maybe god helped along that way. But wouldn't that make judaism the preferred religion by jesus at least? LOL

Psycho Phoenix

Well, Jesus was born to a Jewish mother & a Jewish step-father (remember Jesus was conceived of Mary & God through the Holy Ghost) and grew up as a Jew. This was before the Bible was butchered at the Council of Nicea to become roughly what it is today (before getting translated from the original Hebrew, Greek and the other various languages parts of it were written in).